Top 5 Cavalry Civilizations


Hey guys! Spirit of the Law here. In this video I’m gonna give you my subjective ranking of what I think are the top 5 cavalry Civilizations in Age of Empires II. This does include the HD expansions. Meaning there are 31 Civilizations to pick from. Now, I’ve already done a similar list for archers and infantry But this one’s been the toughest yet Since there are so many civilizations, with either A Cavalry unique unit, direct bonus, or just a really solid tech tree and economy That make cavalry a really viable choice at some point in the game. To get a sense of what I’m basing this on, I’ll consider a civilization’s knight rush as the most important thing. Followed by their late-game heavy cavalry and the feudal scout rush as the third most important factor. Camels are also a plus though not required, and same thing for elephants There’s also some extra points for style as well. (Lol) On the other hand, I’m not including cavalry archers because they’re kind of their own thing and may be worth their own list So now that we know the criteria, Let’s start with number 5, the Malians. Their early game knights or scouts are both really solid choices with their excellent wood bonus But it’s in the transition to the late-game where things get really interesting Their unique tech Farimba gives all of their cavalry +3 more attack than usual. That’s enough to give them some of the best camels in the late game, roughly on the same level as Saracens, And beating discounted Byzantine camels with equal resources, their light cavalry are also improved considerably, Maybe, surprisingly allowing them to handle Hussars in equal numbers. Though they do lack the Hussars upgrade itself Now their Cavaliers aren’t quite as good as Paladin’s, but considering how much faster and cheaper It is to research Farimba than the Paladin upgrade They still end up with a nice advantage over many Paladin’s civilizations, or a good part of the late-game anyway At the end of the day, they’re an unorthodox choice But I think they’re deceptively good and in my opinion, flexible enough to make it into the top 5. Up next at number four is the Franks (why?) Now, some people might consider them top two or three They certainly check the box of having a great knight rush as their ideal strategy With basically free Bloodlines and more line-of-sight Their paladin’s are also number one in the game on account of having the most HP from a civ bonus Plus now a unique tech, for faster working stables. And don’t underestimate their Scout Rush either, Which now gets a lot of help from an Expansion’s buff giving them 25% faster foraging as well as more HP. So, what’s holding them back? Well, basically it still comes down to their lack of flexibility. They’re definitely better than they were in Age of Conquerors with lots of nice changes, But, to be frank with camels being handed out to so many of the newer civilizations (great wordplay, Spirit!) The strength of the Paladin just isn’t what it was and isn’t enough in my opinion to carry them higher than fourth. In fact, you kind of feel bad for them in the glory days of the Age of Kings there weren’t halberdiers and very few civilizations Specialized in camels, which also took extra bonus damage from defensive buildings So they definitely weren’t seen as often. Now with units like the Imperial camel, Genoese crossbow Kamayuk, and all Viking infantry getting +5 against cavalry, It’s becoming an increasingly hostile world for the once mighty Paladin (*insert sad violin) Moving on number three is the Persians There’s lots of reasons to like them especially once you’re past the Feudal age. Their Knight rush is respectable with a nice Town Center work great boost helping your economy, And their Knights even get +2 attack against archers Following that up, they eventually have Paladin, Heavy Camel, and Hussar, all of which are fully upgraded In fact, they’re the only civilization that have that in addition to that. You also get the war elephant Technically it is cavalry and easily handles its Battle Elephant counterparts from the Rise of the Rajas civilizations with equal resources. The elite version can be nearly unstoppable once they get rolling, With roughly 10 times the health of a typical infantry and Massive attack with extra trample damage to all enemies around it Now yes, it’s expensive and halberdiers do get an extra 60 damage against it. It’s easy to convert and they’re hard to mass from castles I get all that but I still think it’s just a nice option to have in a situation Where you need to throw a bit more weight even without the unique unit They’d still have the most complete cavalry tech tree making them an easy top three for me Next at number two is the Magyars They’ve had some nice buffs over the last little while like their Scout rush discount being increased from 10% to 15% And getting siege engineers They also no longer need a blacksmith for their free melee attack upgrades to automatically research In their present state that gives them a very strong discounted Scout rush, With an automatic plus-one attack on their Scouts letting them pick off villagers and eight hits with loom as opposed to the regular ten, Their Knight rush is also helped a lot by that bonus Giving you two attack upgrades that together are worth much more than bloodlines and are useful techs that are easy to neglect Later on, they also have fully upgraded Paladins of course meaning that they can handle their own in the late game as well So far those things don’t necessarily make them better than the Persians or Even the Franks but you then have to consider the Elite Magyar Huszar, once researching their unique tech, That unit drops its entire gold cost and becomes arguably the strongest non gold unit. They’ll still lose to Halberdiers of course, after they’re cavalry But against their regular hussar counterparts they do significantly better And come with a hidden quick creation time and attack bonus against siege. Plus they just look awesome (lol) If you decide you do want some regular Hussars in there, for the conversion resistance, extra line of sight, or just to keep your stables working, That’s no problem either and those are still 15% cheaper as well It’s probably showing my bias towards the late-game But overall I think they hold their own early on and are nearly unbeatable by any other cavalry civilization in late games with limited gold Still with all that they aren’t number one though But before I get to that I have a few honorable mentions of civilizations that just didn’t quite make the list for one reason or another The first one is the Huns, now they may have been at the top of an age of conquerors cavalry list But in the newest expansions They’re just not quite what they once were where a lot of civilizations have gotten stronger The Huns have stayed pretty stagnant and I’m just not sold on their new tech to make Tarkan’s and stables It was a tough call between them and Malians for number 5 and if cavalry archers counted at all for this list, Then they probably would have gotten it Indians of course also deserved some serious consideration Because of their Imperial Camel the big problem that I see is they’re missing the knight line entirely Which I don’t think their camels make up for even With their extra armor and the reduced camel bonus damage from buildings in my opinion the lack of knights alone Pretty much eliminates them from the top 5 automatically. The Mongols also deserve a mention with a great Scout rush and Hussars that do significantly better in melee fights. Thanks to 23 more HP. They also have camels which helps but wasn’t enough to make up for missing paladin and Plate Barding Armor I think there’s probably a better list for them to show up on at some point later And finally Byzantines were worth considering with the very unique Cataphract which negates a lot of anti cavalry damage from Pikes and Camels At the end of the day though without Blast Furnace or Bloodlines, They’re just not a top five cavalry civilization. The number one though without any question in my mind is the Berbers It’s true. There’s no paladin and they’re not exactly known for their Scout rush But once they reach Castle Age their discount cavalry bonus gives them an amazing cost effectiveness That’s hard for other civilizations to match For example, with two stables producing Knights constantly the discounts add up to being the equivalent of an extra four villagers worth of resources Numbers advantages also add up fast With a 15% discount leading to almost 18% more units for the same cost. Which means 38% more strength on the field Once you factor in Lanchester square law that makes their Cavaliers roughly equivalent to paladins with equal resources And gives them at least one of if not the best Knight rush on top of that their camels are also discounted and Regenerate health, of course not being considered here But also worth pointing out is their cavalry skirmisher of the Genitour and they’re very solid Camel Archer They might not improve the stable units directly, but definitely contribute to the overall mobility of the army But that’s just my list. Let me know what your top 5 are. Thanks for watching guys, and I’ll see you next time!

100 Comments

  1. Ritesh Arora said:

    How to deal with huge group of elephants ?

    August 23, 2018
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  2. Darrin Bell-Wolff said:

    Of course it comes down to math
    It always come down to math

    August 29, 2018
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  3. ashwin unni said:

    Where's Burmese??

    August 30, 2018
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  4. Jan Sitkowski said:

    I would put Huns at top because Tarkans are great unit.

    September 2, 2018
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  5. kch said:

    👍

    September 9, 2018
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  6. Lucas Lederle said:

    for my you could have 3 top 5 1) for scout rush 2) for knight rush 3) post-imperial cavalry steamrolling

    September 12, 2018
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  7. Flying High said:

    Top 5 Monk civs when :p

    October 1, 2018
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  8. Shogun said:

    The Berbers are powerful. But I'd like to see them get through my Italian fortresses with Genoese Crossbowmen out the wazoo.

    October 5, 2018
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  9. Armand Bdl said:

    Could you do a Top 5 worst cavalry civilization ? 😁

    October 5, 2018
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  10. Snakie said:

    Does it bother anyone else that the Persian War Elephant is clearly an AFRICAN elephant, despite the fact that they used Asian elephants?

    They at least got it right in the Raja's expansion.

    October 6, 2018
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  11. SirAntoniousBlock said:

    The Magyars have acsses to halberdier, arbalests,champion ,hussar and paladins they are so strong but nobody playes them🙁

    October 7, 2018
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  12. SirAntoniousBlock said:

    Do one on cav archers

    October 7, 2018
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  13. Gamer Steve said:

    I don’t know man but I really like the Aztecs as a cavalry civ

    October 7, 2018
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    October 9, 2018
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  15. J L said:

    I would have considered the sarracens as honorable mension as it has:
    1) Hassar fully upgraded
    2) Top 3 in camels
    3) Mameluke I love this unit when it is massed up

    October 11, 2018
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  16. Richard Bos said:

    what about the Huns?

    October 17, 2018
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  17. snaglebagel said:

    2:56 you gave this paladin a better role than most of hollywood

    October 19, 2018
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  18. Yusuf O said:

    You are now subscribed to elephant facts!

    October 23, 2018
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  19. Shiva RV said:

    Hostile world for the once mighty paladin 😂😂 rofl

    October 30, 2018
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  20. Wohnzimmer PC said:

    Des oarschloch kau ned moi de föda gscheid zua mühle zuwebaun. Wos is des.

    October 31, 2018
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  21. Nonya Bidness said:

    I think the teutons deserve an honorable mention ( definitely not top 5 tho ). their eco bonus helps their scout rush alot, they get bloodlines for their scout rush and nearly FU paladins (it's my contention that husbandry is the least important cav tech). Plus their team bonus pretty much eliminates, one of the possible counters for your knight-line. and teutons have a plethora of options to punish massed halbs/camels.

    October 31, 2018
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  22. Mihir Sathe said:

    No mention of Spanish? I guess Conquistadors don't count.

    November 1, 2018
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  23. Alex Sanchez said:

    Why do I even watch these, I don't play this game! Great content though.

    November 1, 2018
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  24. butterflyspirit said:

    INDIANS

    November 5, 2018
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  25. Flying Spaghetti Monster said:

    +3 or +5 ?

    November 7, 2018
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  26. magyar magyar said:

    what about Spanish cavalry, all techs being accounted for?

    November 8, 2018
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  27. Chirantan S said:

    Farimba is +5 or +3 attack??

    I think he said +3

    November 12, 2018
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  28. Virgile said:

    i disagree with berbers and their "amazing knight rush" let's say one's rush with 6 knights, berbers will save 54food and 77 gold, 131 total resources saved on the knight rush ====> Most economic bonuses save more than 131 resources.

    November 15, 2018
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  29. Botond Szendrei said:

    Make top 5 naval and monk civilizations

    November 17, 2018
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  30. Solomon Capetillo said:

    What is the Lanchester square law? (Mentioned at 7:50)

    November 18, 2018
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  31. mrben-joseph said:

    Mongolians should jave been at least number 5.

    November 20, 2018
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  32. Who's Soap said:

    2:58 – 3:08 I cri everitiem

    November 20, 2018
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  33. Botond Lippai said:

    Magyars xd

    November 24, 2018
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  34. Carl Ginland said:

    i'm seeing a pattern of qantity over quality : Best archers = Mayans (archer line discount), best infantry = Goths (infantry discount), best cavalry = Berbers (cavalry discount)

    November 25, 2018
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  35. chipmanman1 said:

    I've always thought as Calvary as weak AF because they are so easily crushed cost-wise by piketech but maybe that's because I only play black forest where it's hard to fight outside of a choke.

    Calvary archers and archers too. They seem to get crushed by onagers.

    December 2, 2018
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  36. Gabriel Williams said:

    Farimba says plus 5, yet you said it was plus 3? What's up with that? Malians

    December 3, 2018
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  37. Arielle Fenix said:

    This list seems to prefer ponies over Dumbos. 🙁

    December 5, 2018
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  38. Christian Andersson said:

    AoE2 game where nations outside europe have knights…. lol wtf whas Microsoft smoking? luckily you can change this with mods 🙂

    December 7, 2018
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  39. Adwans :3 said:

    Kinda funny you said the magyars are the best in the civ overview

    December 8, 2018
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  40. NarraJoker12 said:

    "Not putting the Spanish in the honorable mentions"

    Gonzalo, bring the pike

    December 12, 2018
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  41. Marián Kojnok said:

    New civilisations too OP

    December 20, 2018
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  42. Dragonborn said:

    Hey, Spirit. Can you make Top 5 Scout Cavalry-line Civilization, please?

    December 28, 2018
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  43. Jonathan Schloemer said:

    I definitely agree with your list. I appreciate the honorable mention to the Byzantines when judges as a cavalry civ.
    Of course, more systemically they're weird as hell, because the Cataphract forces a brute force counter, and most brute force counters have a hard counter from a trash unit, which the Byzantines do very well.
    Most brute force counters are, as it so happens, cavalry (and the other brute force counters (ie. Teutonic Knights) are countered by the cataphracts), which means discounted halberdiers.

    December 30, 2018
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  44. AzureB1te Music said:

    Khmer

    December 31, 2018
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  45. cryptosporidium01 said:

    If leptoterna didn't went extinct some 10000 years ago mesoamericans wouldn't have lagged so far behind

    January 6, 2019
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  46. Timbobway said:

    Aztecs

    January 8, 2019
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  47. Arpit Singh said:

    Cataphract alone would have earned byzantines top 3

    January 10, 2019
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  48. Alexonator said:

    2:29 this is why i hate the bloodlines upgrade

    January 10, 2019
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  49. Ansett Lee said:

    Hey, spirit. I would like to know the ranking if battle elephants are included.
    Would you consider answering the question?
    Or is there anyone nice enough to provide some opinions?

    January 11, 2019
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  50. G-Naran said:

    My favorite was always the elephant

    January 12, 2019
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  51. Alonso Pérez said:

    I didn't notice that your videos have Spanish subtitles till now, as native Spanish speaker living in Colombia I Must say the translator did a great job, There are some spelling mistakes 'cause he or she wrote too fast but Even though it's a great Job. Your channel is awesome!!

    January 12, 2019
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  52. Rupurrt Purrcy said:

    3:05 Bunny's angry‼

    January 13, 2019
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  53. Merlijn Custers said:

    Me Byzantine number 1

    January 16, 2019
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  54. AB TheTheic said:

    Call me orthodox,
    But I still love the good old days. I feel the game was pretty much balanced back then and their wasn't need of constant tweaks. Plus, original civs were way more relatable to the ambiance set by the game itself…
    It's so saddening to see once powerhouse cavalry civs like franks, huns and mongols now either at bottom of list or just having a passing 'honorable mention!'..
    This particular list just shows how significantly the AoEII world has changed..
    No offence,
    But it's just like GoT post season 4 in terms of environment that the game provides!
    Yet, kudos to all the hard working and dedicated players, streamers and researchers like Spirit of the Law, that keep the community (even after decades) alive, colorful and flourishing! 👍

    January 17, 2019
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  55. Roma Mgebrishvili said:

    1.Franks
    2.Persians
    3.Indians
    4. Malians
    5. whatever.
    U could argue N1 for Persians. I had to put someone first 11.

    January 26, 2019
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  56. Jérémie Campeau-Poirier said:

    Like you said, many civs are good with cavalry, that's why i was a bit surprised by your list : i would've put Magyars at #1; i prefer an over-powered unit rather than a cheaper one; i was expecting the Huns or a civ with a strong unique cavalry unit (Byzantine, Slavs); but your choices still make sense. My list would be :
    1 Magyars
    2 Huns
    3 Franks
    4 Berbers
    5 Byzantines/Persians

    January 28, 2019
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  57. jerome akmadol said:

    Ryt then 6 country is famiLiar..

    February 5, 2019
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  58. Edvin Storlind said:

    The genitour is actually the only Cavalry Aztecs, Mayans and incas can get.

    February 6, 2019
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  59. Soumya Polley said:

    Teutonic Knight?

    February 11, 2019
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  60. sammao2011 said:

    Spanish should have been no 5 Instead of Malian imo

    February 12, 2019
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  61. Nils Lukacs said:

    big fan of your videos, especially the comparisons!
    I really like the meso civs and every time I get to post-imp eagles I think to myself that Spirit should do a comparison between three eagle special techs… whats your take on it?

    February 12, 2019
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  62. ersin çüldür said:

    still waiting top 5 trash civs..

    February 12, 2019
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  63. Galois E said:

    The Franks!

    February 19, 2019
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  64. arab gaming said:

    Ok I will try

    February 23, 2019
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  65. Navratan Tejramka said:

    Huns are huns

    February 24, 2019
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  66. Noah Mack said:

    7:00 oof

    February 28, 2019
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  67. The Dill Dozer said:

    2:57 I think this is a great example of your castle age offense bias, personally I wouldn't put the knight rush at top priority.

    March 3, 2019
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  68. juresaiyan said:

    3:00 ROFL

    March 5, 2019
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  69. Bara Thrum said:

    7:17 I was holding my breath at that moment. You didn't mention them in early top 5, nor in honorable mentions. I was like wtf!!! Berbers cavalry are simply a devastation for anything in their path (well it was always this for me).
    Continue your videos I love them, make AoE2 great again!!
    Edit: I didn't see it in comment section, but Berbers are not barbarians (words look alike), they are the native nations of North Africa (especially the Great Maghreb).

    March 9, 2019
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  70. RRG said:

    saracens need to be in the honoroble mention

    March 17, 2019
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  71. MrHeesman said:

    ''Since they don't have Paladins, it pretty much eliminates them from the Top-5 altogether.''
    >Proceeds to give the #1 to a Civ without Paladins.

    Wat?

    March 25, 2019
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  72. J Stead said:

    Spanish don't even get a honorable mention 🙁

    March 30, 2019
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  73. Indonesian Countryball Gaming Boi said:

    WINGGED HUSSAR

    March 31, 2019
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  74. SHENANIGANS said:

    Bro….No love for the Spanish?

    April 3, 2019
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  75. Timothy Asmara said:

    Hello Spirit, thanks for your AOE2 videos it help me a lot in playing this game, and if i may suggest Turk civ perhaps could be added in your honorable mentions since they have a complete cavalry upgrade in their blacksmith surprisingly. I know it's not a cavalry civ but i think it worth to be considered. Anyway keep up the good work and i can't wait for your next video.

    April 6, 2019
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  76. Durendal Arcas said:

    Does the spanish civ make a top 5 list or honorable mention anywhere? 🙁 I play with them often.

    April 18, 2019
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  77. Benjamin Maughan said:

    No Turks?

    April 19, 2019
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  78. Erectar Denara said:

    There is something I don't get :

    You took the camel archers of the TOP 1 into account when making your evaluation…But not for the other civilisations…
    Isn't that a bit biaised as a reasonning?

    After all, Mongol's cavalry strength isn't only the stable units : their Mangudaï are a big part of it too

    April 22, 2019
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  79. Qihang Shi said:

    Lanchester square law is for shooting armies (everyone can aim at every enemy). Melee armies (each has one soldier fighting one enemy) follow Lanchester linear law. This probably explains why archer civs have higher exchange ratio and why Berbers isn't as good as you'd expect in multiplayer data.

    April 22, 2019
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  80. MantisAtlantis said:

    Huns,mongols,incas,brizantys and britoins

    May 11, 2019
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  81. Subhadeep Ray said:

    I still think Mongols are always the best civillisation in AOE. With Higher HP Hussars, Magudai having attack bonus against seige, and fast garrisoned battle rams , Mongols are quite good.

    May 19, 2019
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  82. Michał Baron said:

    Once mighty paladin. Riiight.

    May 24, 2019
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  83. Felipe Vidal Otero said:

    I'm surprised I'm not seeing Saracens at the top: the mamluk is a cavalry nightmare when in decent numbers.

    June 26, 2019
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  84. AK Brahma said:

    History is yet to produce a Malian knight, especially when there is no record of domestication of horse in sub-Sahara. Age of Empires 2 is yet to produce an Indian knight, funny when you find most of India's historic generals were expert equestrian.

    July 2, 2019
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  85. Chocolate Cumprimenta said:

    2:57 Sad T_T

    July 3, 2019
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  86. Deepdish Kira said:

    Top 5 Deathmatch expansion rush cavalry 1: indian 2: huns 3: magyars 4: Saracens 5: malians. i didn't put franks or spanish in because 9x out of 10 they get negated by camels. top 5 other cavalry, koreans, malay. persians. khmer. vietnamese.

    July 4, 2019
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  87. Moroccan Mapper said:

    Then the winged hussars arrived

    July 5, 2019
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  88. Emre Demir said:

    Berbers Number 1

    July 10, 2019
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  89. Narguhl said:

    No Slavs?

    July 12, 2019
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  90. Blessed betheLord said:

    Spirit: "at the number 4 spot is the franks"

    Aoestates.io: "hold my states"

    August 3, 2019
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  91. Muhammad Yudhi said:

    Why Camel Archer doesn't included?
    I mean, you put Berbers on top mention, but why you doesn't explaining the Berbers unique Unit, the Camel Archers

    August 4, 2019
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  92. Márton Kardos said:

    "Magyars" hearing you pronounce it as an actual Hungarian makes my ear bleed 😂

    August 8, 2019
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  93. Binarokaro said:

    Do you think that you'd make a Top 5 Monk Civilizations?

    August 10, 2019
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  94. RedstoneBoy0509 said:

    BYZANTINES SHOULD BE TOP 5!!!

    September 7, 2019
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  95. samiamrg7 said:

    Franks DEFINITELY deserved a higher spot, since camels really are not that big a threat to Frankish knights. The extra health helps a lot and monks can be used to support by threatening to convert enemy camels.

    September 10, 2019
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  96. samiamrg7 said:

    In Hidden Cup, we saw Franks vs Indians multiple times, and EVERY TIME the Frank player wiped the floor with the Indian player. Indians won NOT ONE TIME against Franks despite Indians being one of the most specialized camel civs.
    The key was that the Frank player supported their knights with Monks, who could convert (or threaten to convert) enemy camels, which let them control engagements much better and whittle down the camel numbers so that their knights could crush them.
    Honestly, camels just are not actually a great anti-knight unit. Pikemen are much cheaper and expendable, and Halberdiers have a WAY bigger bonus.

    September 10, 2019
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  97. samiamrg7 said:

    You underestimate how amazing the Frank berry gather bonus + free farm techs + basically free bloodlines is. It lets them get to Feudal age with a good economy and immediately have upgraded farms which can then be used to make scouts (which have extra health) or progress toward Castle age where they immediately get another farm upgrade for gathering food for making knights that, again, immediately have extra health with no upgrade-time required. This means the Franks have hands down the strongest knights in early-Castle Age. In Imperial Age, their Paladins are (I’m pretty sure) THE strongest paladins in the game, and they produce 40% faster!

    September 10, 2019
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  98. Mukit Hasan said:

    Persians are best

    September 25, 2019
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  99. Alejandro Romero Osnaya said:

    2:36 to be Frank… LOL

    October 12, 2019
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  100. Drew Armstrong, The Glorious Lobster Emperor said:

    Actually, Camels didn't take extra bonus damage from structures back in Age of Kings. They weren't in the Ship armour class then, they were in the same Cavalry armour class as Knights and Scouts.

    November 10, 2019
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